This is last war that will give Ukraine chance to get out from under empire’s rubble – journalist Portnikov

He told Espreso TV live on air. 

"I think we have to draw conclusions from these events that we are experiencing today. It is very important to draw the right conclusions. Many people say that this is not the first and not the last war between Russia and Ukraine. I am one of those people who believe that this is a difficult war, a difficult test, but it is the last such war. I am absolutely sure that after this war, Ukraine will become part of the civilized world, a member of the EU and NATO, and will receive real security guarantees. Yes, it will not be easy and will come at a very high price. But the most important thing we should always remember is that we now have an absolutely incredible chance to close the page on our relations, our conflict with Russia, which has been going on for centuries," the journalist said.

Vitaly Portnikov noted that this was done by all niche nations that tried to get out from under the wreckage of the empire and from its tutelage. This is what Ukraine’s neighbors from Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Finland did. All these countries at different times were part of the Russian Empire. And now they realize that they are not in danger because they have the US nuclear umbrella. These countries are now witnessing the agony of the empire, which is happening on our land.

"I am absolutely sure that the Russians will never go to a nuclear conflict with the civilized world. It is important for us to receive security guarantees from NATO now, so that the Russians know that any future attack will be paid for at the cost of Russian lives. We have to draw many conclusions. The first is to have a consolidated, anti-populist society that does not believe in meaningless promises. The second is to carry out all the reforms that the civilized world demands of us today. Today, society is ready for statehood and sacrifices the lives of thousands of people who are dying on the Russian-Ukrainian front for the sake of future statehood. This is only the beginning of this path, but we must go through it with dignity," Portnikov concluded.