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“I would say to my soldiers that if I was going to be captured – just shoot me." Freed Ukrainian POWs describe battle for Mariupol and life in Russian captivity

6 March, 2023 Monday
19:11

CBS News’ Scott Pelley has interviewed three Ukrainian soldiers, all women, who fought in Mariupol and were captured by Russian forces. Their stories are evidence of Russia’s war crimes in Ukraine

Once alive with 400,000 residents, Putin shelled Mariupol to misery. In April, the last Ukrainian troops were cornered in steel mills above the graveyard.

35-year-old Sergeant Iryna Stogniy is a medic. 

Iryna Stogniy (translation): We saw people dying, children dying, children's heads being blown off… civilians… it's hard to bring those memories back…

Hard, because at least 25,000 civilians were killed. 

Iryna Stogniy (translation): We tried to help civilians. We tried to give them some assistance, at least something – water, medicine, food. There were little children with us. It's hard to watch your friend's head be blown off in front of you... It was… you can't describe this with words, difficult, very difficult when people you know, and children, die for nothing.

Sergeant Stogniy served in Mariupol with Captain Mariana Mamonova, a 31-year-old military doctor.

Mariana Mamonova (translation): There was one time when we saw a family running as we were driving to save our soldiers and when we were coming back, the father was crying over his family –[the] bodies of the mom and a little child. 

Also at the steel mill, 33-year-old Sergeant Anastasia Chornenka ran communications.  

Scott Pelley: The fight there was desperate. 

Anastasia Chornenka (translation): Yes, constant aviation, artillery. This was non-stop fighting, non-stop shelling. 

During the battle, Chornenka often sent her family a text, just one character.

Anastasia Chornenka (translation): It was very quick. If you [sent] a "plus" [sign] it meant you were alive.

Dr. Mamonova also had a message. It should have been for her husband back home. But she would not send it. 

Scott Pelley: When did you realize that you were pregnant?

Mariana Mamonova (translation): I realized that I was pregnant in the middle of March. And when I saw that the test result was positive, I cried. I was hysterical.

But she didn't want her husband to know how much he stood to lose.

“I knew, if I died, it would be easier for him to reconcile with the loss of a wife than the loss of a wife and a baby.” 

By April, the fight for Mariupol was hopeless. Sergeant Stogniy's unit was surrounded. 

 

  Sergeant Iryna Stogniy

Iryna Stogniy (translation): They took away our men separately, splitting them up, some of the men were beaten, some of our men were… how shall I put it… shot in the head…

Scott Pelley: The Russians killed unarmed men?

Iryna Stogniy (translation): Yes, we were unarmed.

About the same time, Captain Mamonova's unit was moving in the night to reinforce troops fighting for their lives.

Mariana Mamonova (translation): I would [just] say to my soldiers in my medical unit that if I was going to be captured – "just shoot me." "Don't look at me – just shoot me." And don't let me be captive. Don't let me.

Suddenly, in our interview, she was back, hiding in the rear of a truck that ran into a Russian patrol. She turned to a fellow soldier.

Mariana Mamonova (translation): Please tell me that we did not get captured. And he's looking at me, not knowing what to say. I see fear in his eyes. I realized that he can't tell me that we didn't get captured because we did get captured.

Next, came a blinding light and voices warning that they would be shot. 

Mariana Mamonova (translation): [Artillery shells] were falling down. [And] at that moment I was asking God to let me die. I thought, "Oh, God, I don't want to [be captured]. I just want to die here. Please let me die."

Captain Mariana Mamonova

She knew that the walls of Putin's prisons muffle cries of torture. A UN POW investigation collected testimony of executions, starvation, attacks by dogs, twisting joints until they break and mock executions.  

Anastasia Chornenka (translation): When they first [talked] about taking me for execution, I only had enough time to pray and say goodbye to my children. 

“Probably, the worst feeling is that you won't see your children ever again.”

Anastasia Chornenka (translation): You don't know where the fighting is and whether your children are in a safe place. This is the most frightening thing for a mother. 

Iryna Stogniy says that she was moved among four Russian prisons and tortured with electricity.

Iryna Stogniy (translation): They would rape some men. When we were in Taganrog [prison] there was a cell for men and a cell for women. And we could hear our men screaming when they were being raped. They were making our men scrape off their tattoos. They were beating them badly. 

“They did the same to women – they would beat them, pour boiling water on them. The only thing they didn't do - they didn't rape women. But the beating was brutal, abuse was very bad.”

Mariana Mamonova (translation): [They said] they would take my child away from me and they would move the [baby] repeatedly from one orphanage to another so I could never find my child.

Scott Pelley: I wonder, as you felt your daughter moving, what did you tell her?

Mariana Mamonova (translation): I was saying to my child that we were strong, and we could do it. "Your mommy is strong. Your mommy is military. Your mommy is a doctor. Your mommy will save you."

She asked only one thing from her child in return. 

Mariana Mamonova (translation): You will be born in Ukraine. Can you hear me in there? You must be born in a free Ukraine. 

Unknown to the prisoners, Ukraine was working to get them home. Andriy Yermak is chief of staff to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Leading negotiations for prisoner exchanges is Yermak's job. So far, his team has negotiated 38 POW swaps of about equal numbers. 1,800 Ukrainians have been freed. An estimated 4,000 or so remain. 

There was fresh faith in his work in October with a deal to free 108 Ukrainians at once – all of them women. Iryna Stogniy was among them – hooded, tied, and told nothing.

Iryna Stogniy (translation): We had been transported in vehicles and by plane so many times before, we thought they were just taking us to another cell.

Sergeant Anastasia Chornenka

Anastasia Chornenka was also in the dark. She had duct tape over her eyes so, her first inkling was something she could feel.

Anastasia Chornenka (translation): They put us on quite comfortable buses which were never used [and we thought] something's not right. Something's up because the bus felt comfortable and soft. 

Later, the tape was cut from her eyes. 

Anastasia Chornenka (translation): And you realize that there is no guard behind you, and you stand there (looking at) the big sign that reads "Ukraine." 

Scott Pelley: I understand that you got a new tattoo after you were released? May I see it?

Iryna Stogniy (translation): It reads, "They were trying to kill me, they captured me, but I did not give in because I was born Ukrainian." 

Another Ukrainian birth was delayed just enough. This is Dr. Mariana Mamonova walking to freedom. She told us near the end of her captivity, one kind Russian officer sent her to a hospital. And weeks later she was in a prisoner exchange. 

Mariana Mamonova (translation): I was liberated on the 21st of September and my child was born on the 25th.

A healthy girl named Anna.

Scott Pelley: So, she did exactly what you asked her to do – not be born until you were out of there.

Mariana Mamonova (translation): Yes. I was stroking my bump and I said: "OK, we are home now, and you can be born. Everything is good, we are home. 

No one knows freedom like those who have lost it. The women CBS News spoke to were held six months. 

Anastasia Chornenka retired from the military. Sergeant Iryna Stogniy is on duty near the front. And Captain Mariana Mamonova has maternity leave before she returns to the fight for Ukrainian freedom--and now--freedom's future.

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